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Vauxhall Movano campervan, uk licence plates 2002


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Anybody interested to buy my campervan as I don’t really want to go back to the UK to sell it there. I have used it to bring a lot of my stuff over. It has a fridge on gas and electric, full hob and double oven, hot and cold water, toilet and wash basin, lots of storage cabinets. Small bed at the back and one swivel chair to make a bed. I had the swivel taken out of the drivers seat as I could not drive properly as I am only 5’4”. It has a roll out awning.

 

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I assume you are unaware that it is illegal to sell a foreign registered vehicle in Portugal, if you get caught you will be liable to ALL the ISV due (no new resident exemption).

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The plan was to sell it to someone going back to the uk. I didn’t know that that is illegal 

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@eefcawdor28 

It doesn't matter who you sell it to or what they do with it. It's not just a Portugal thing, it applies throughout the EU.

Article 4(b) of the relevant EU Directive,
(b) the private vehicle is not disposed of, hired out or lent in the Member State of temporary importation

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Ok, I will drive it back then totheukand sell it there

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@eefcawdor28 Or sell it in the UK via Autotrader and get them to come and collect it.

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@eefcawdor28 Or sell it in the UK via Autotrader and get them to come and collect it.

You might find it beneficial to acquaint yourself with the law in Portugal so as to avoid giving advise to people that (if they followed your advice) would put them in contravention of it.

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@old-bloke I can't see the problem with selling an English registered vehicle to someone living in England, could get a relative or friend to act for them. If there's a problem in Portugal, then just drive it to Santander and hand it over in the ferry port.

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@old-bloke I can't see the problem with selling an English registered vehicle to someone living in England, could get a relative or friend to act for them. If there's a problem in Portugal, then just drive it to Santander and hand it over in the ferry port.

That would just transfer the offence to Spain (see my post above quoting the EU Directive), selling is disposing. The wording of the relevant international treaties (that are adopted into EU and national laws) effectively require the owner (or one of their immediate family) who took the vehicle out of the country of origin to return it back there.

As with all laws, some people break them and go undetected, some get caught and pay the penalty (a very expensive penalty in Portugal - up to 6 times the ISV that would be due). It is up to the individual which path they choose, I just feel they should make their choice whilst being aware of the consequences.

Your suggestion re Santander would be a legal work around if the owner drove the vehicle onto the ferry and handed it over to the buyer on the ferry, but not in the ferry port itself. 

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@Eveline If it's of any help to you, I live near to the Portsmouth Ferryport and can help you get the vehicle back to the UK, if you're interested then please DM me for privacy.

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