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Hi

My husband and I have been living in Portugal for 10 months and have completed on our

house purchase this week. We have requested our belongings to be sent from UK where they've been in storage and are facing a nightmare of paperwork!

One question that is causing a big headache is how to apply for the Baggage Certificate from here. On the instructions list it says if applying from Portugal you must get an international cheque (presumably printed at the bank?) and send with completed forms, (though on the Embassy website it says they will ask by email  for payment by bank transfer) but seems to imply that your self addressed envelope for return of certificate must be back to Portugal but our shipping company in UK need it! Can we put a UK address on the self addressed envelope so that the certificate is sent to the shipping company in UK rather than here? 

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Following. I'm trying to figure this out as well. We plan to move household stuff in the fall or winter. It seems to be quite complicated. How detailed does the itemized list need to be? Box of kitchen tools? Or list every item. 

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@maxgravy Hi, I have no idea how detailed the belongings list needs to be as we packed up 10 months ago so it's listed the way the storage company did it at the time which is big items of furniture etc listed individually and cartons and crates just listed by what was written on their labels by myself. I hope and pray this is going to be ok!

Are you already living in Portugal?

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@traceyjmo65 Yes, we've been living in Lisbon since early April. We're planning a return trip to get stuff from storage. We don't have much to ship, mostly family mementos. A lot of it we'll bring back in our suitcases.

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@maxgravy we're beginning to wish we had stuck to just personal goods but didn't feel buying all new furniture etc once here was justifiable or affordable for us.

Good luck with your move ☺

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@traceyjmo65 

You're cutting it fine as the free importation (no import duty or IVA to pay) of your personal effects only applies during the first 12 months of your residency if not being imported from another EU member state.

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@old-bloke thank you, I am aware of this. Our residency certificate is dated 16th Dec.

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Hi Traceyjmo65, can I ask , did you resolve your query?

We will be in a similar position in a few months from now. We complete on our house at the end of the month and also have the daunting task of that paperwork coming. 

We are of course going to follow the advise of the Portuguese Consulate on their website which is as clear as mud and throws up more questions than answers. 

We are with PSS removals and have a "ton" of stuff to bring over!

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@brooks63 Hi

Fortunately our storage company in UK have taken the task in hand and are liaising with the shipping company to get the paperwork resolved. No one seems to be totally clear as to what is required as things keep changing! Good luck with your move 🤞

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Hello All,

We are still in the UK, looking into the Baggage Certificate now and also find it very confusing regarding how exactly should the belongings be listed in the inventory - very detailed or general? Also it says they need serial numbers of major electrical appliances - what is considered not a major electrical appliance? A toaster? A kettle? Is a slow cooker a major or minor one?

Also as I understand, as the UK is not in the EU the Baggage Certificate is absolutely necessary, right? 

Good luck all with moving your belongings! 🙂

 

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Following as we are planning to move early 2022 and the baggage certificate seems to be a huge grey area with very little firm information available.

I'd be very interested to know if anyone makes sense of all this!!!

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@bobble Hi Bobbie,  Leif and I are in the throws of our D-7 Visa and trying to decide is we can wait to ship our HHGS after we are already in Portugal with a one year lease.  Did you have to go back to your country of origin to get your baggage certificate?  I agree it is very confusing.  TIA  Leif and Susan

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@susan-marie You need to get the baggage certificate from your embassy in the US. The shipping company can help with this. I don't believe you need to be physically in the US.

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@thunderduck We're using GIR, and they have provided very clear instructions on what we need to do, forms we need to provide and the order in which they need to be done, along with the options available to us. In our case since my wife is an EU citizen, we can apply for the baggage certificate at the DC embassy as soon as we have our packing list. The DC embassy requirements seem fairly clear: https://washingtondc.embaixadaportugal.mne.gov.pt/en/consular-services/consular-services/importation-of-household-effects

For non-EU citizens, you do have to wait till you get your residency before you can apply for the baggage cert. This will mean storing your goods in your home country till you get the cert, since otherwise you run the risk of them arriving in Portugal and being charged customs duty (the estimate for which seems to be fairly reasonable - about 10% of value). We were given the option of shipping right away to avoid storage fees, but then paying duty at the other end.

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@zoom I don't mean to contradict but this is not true for US citizens. I know several who have applied for their baggage certificate who are just going over on their D7, ie - have not established residence in Portugal prior to leaving. In fact the apostile from the consulate is sent to you in the US. You do run the risk of duty if you are not organized with obtaining the certificados, ie sending things without organized timing and a place to reside in Portugal. You also for many freight forwarders need to agree to take the risk if your belongings arrive before you have your certificado de bagagem e certificado de residencia in Portugal. Also, don't forget to have a NIF address that matches those documents. It is possible and in fact I am currently doing it. I am in the jurisdiction of the San Francisco Consulate and so the freight out of here is already backing up again. I do have a rental already in Portugal, though did not before applying for my visa as I have a sponsor. The new rules (at least in SF) are that you must have a year's lease when you apply for your visa. 

I don't know what the rules are if you have already started living in Portugal, ie -have resident status, and are sending for your belongings within the first year of arrival. 

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@bert I'm sorry about the inaccuracies - thanks for setting me straight! The GIR guys may have said that to avoid the risk of duties if they ship and don't get the baggage cert in time. So it looks like you can either take the risk of duties and ship before you get the cert, or wait and pay storage charges.

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