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 Todd
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Hello, I am Chris and hoping to move the Portugal next year from the UK - I hope to visit early December and look around until around February 21

I am interested in becoming a permanent resident -  is there anything I should do now before Brexit to smooth that process ? 

I am interested in buying a place and doing it up from the ground up - I am a Chartered Designer in the UK specialising through Interior Design so there is not much I can't do myself 

What happens about health matters - GP services etc - 

Big subjects I know but any pointers and help gratefully received 

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Posted by: @todd

Hello, I am Chris and hoping to move the Portugal next year from the UK - I hope to visit early December and look around until around February 21

I am interested in becoming a permanent resident -  is there anything I should do now before Brexit to smooth that process ? 

Hi, and welcome to the forum from me.

Yes there is.

If you're arriving in early December and you do what you can to establish officially that you are here for good (with visits back to the UK), then you will have a considerably easier path to permanent resident status than if you arrive after December 31st.

Renting somewhere as a base would be a good start and get you proof of address, which would serve as the basis for applying for a certificate of registration of residence for EU citizens from your local town hall. This has a validity period of 5 years. If you could obtain that certificate before the end of December, that would be the ideal. In any case, if you can subsequently establish that you were here prior to 31st Dec and in the process of establishing residence, that certificate should still be issued. From then, absences shouldn't exceed 6 months at a stretch during the first 5 years in order to be eligible for a permanent resident document once the initial certificate expires.

This makes a significant difference to your future rights, which would be preserved by and large as they currently stand under the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement.

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What happens about health matters - GP services etc - 

Once you have a registration of residency certificate, you may enrol in the public health system. The procedure varies slightly according to the basis on which you are here - whether you're working / self-employed / pensioner / living off own means - but all residents have the right to public healthcare.

There are currently (very) modest charges at point of delivery, although there is a phasing out of these in the pipeline. Prescription medicines are available at rates variously discounted  according to categories, for those enrolled in the public system.

Hope this helps as a start and don't hesitate to ask furthe if there's anything unclear about the above, or about anything else.

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 Todd
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Thanks so much for this - very helpful - I hope to arrive early Dec and meet up with my daughter - I will try the registration process once I have a rental address and hope the town hall will accept a rental address 

I am a pensioner here in uk and would be living off my own means 

Chris 

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@todd

You're welcome.

One thing I glossed over above is the different applications of the 90 day "rule" for EU citizens, which says that you are not required to register your presence within the first 90 days of being in Portugal but if remaining beyond that, you must do so within the following 30 days.

There is nothing in the law explicitly preventing the local authority from issuing residence certificates prior to the 90 days expiring but some insist that you must wait until that period is over before you can be registered. Either way, if you start that period before the end of December, they should still issue you with the certificate, even if the end of the 90 days occurs after the Brexit transition period has expired. And there are bodies you can approach for support over that in case of any difficulty. Essentially, though, you should ensure, if you can, that your first stay comfortably exceeds the 90 days and that you intend to be continuously resident barring short periods out thereafter and can demonstrate that you are in the process of transferring your residence from the UK.

The town hall will definitely accept a rental address - a proper rental contract, as opposed to a more causal holiday let, would be of definite value here.

If you're a state pensioner, your enrolment in the PT healthcare system is done via the S1 process but that's a bridge to cross later.

All UK pension income paid to a PT resident would normally be taxed by Portugal and not the UK, unless it's in respect of public service, in which case the UK may have sole taxation rights on it.

It might well be worth you looking at the Portuguese Non Habitual Resident regime for a favourable tax treatment with regard to foreign income and capital gains, which would apply for a period of 10 years (a non-habitual resident in this case being someone who has not been tax resident in Portugal in any of the 5 years preceding the application for the status - ie a new resident as opposed to one one who isn't fully resident, if you see what I mean).

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 Todd
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Thanks for all your help on these early questions 

My plan is to become resident in Portugal and to sell my home in UK in order to buy or rent in Portugal 

I am meeting up with my daughter early December all being well - she and family are in California at the moment and hope to have travel papers through end November 

Lets see how all this goes but your support has been invaluable - let me keep you informed 

Initially we will rent somewhere while we are looking around to buy 

I will probably fly from UK - other means of travel are expensive and 3-4 days - am aiming for Setubal area initially 

To be honest I'd like to find a place that needs a lot of work doing to it - we shall see 

Thanks for all your help 

Chris

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@todd

Hello Chris and welcome to our forum.

Short questions requiring long answers I'm afraid. There is quite a lot of information on the forum about healthcare (costs etc) and it will be worthwhile to scroll through the recent topics.

Once you become a resident, you will be entitled to access the Portuguese healthcare system but the residency process for UK citizens may change once Brexit is in place. At this stage, there is no absolute clarity on the procedures post Brexit. 

I also recommend you listen to some of our recent webinars which you can find here:

https://expatsportugal.com/portugal-calling-webinars/

Hopefully, this will give you a few pointers and then we can address your more specific questions. 

Regards

Gerry

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I was planning to do similar @todd But after hearing the webinar on getting residency before Brexit I'm thinking of just plunging straight in! It looks quite straight forward while we are still in the EU. Seems like it could be worth while taking advantage of it. 

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Definitely watch the recent webinar and get the ball rolling today! You could be here in no time.

What kind of place are you looking to buy and renovate? We bought a ruin and have almost finished restoring one of the smaller buildings. A big project but so exciting. My husband is also involved with design and build, plus he is Portuguese so having the language certainly helps. 

Is this the kind of thing you are looking for? A rural place or looking for an apartment in one of the cities? Plenty of those needing some TLC too.

When the time comes, feel free to reach out to me with any questions. I can ask my hubby about the "Portuguese" way 🙂

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