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Hi all,
We are Dave and Jan and have recently joined the forum. We are planning to spend 6-8 months in Portugal and 4-6 months in the UK and are interested in living on the Silver Coast. We are visiting in a few weeks time and are staying in Caldas da Rainha. We would prefer to be within 60 mins of Lisbon airport. Could anyone make some recommendations as to where we should look/visit?
Thanks Dave & Jan
Welcome.
Assuming you aren't EU citizens you might need to review the time you plan on spending in each country, there are conditions attached to a Portuguese resident's permit that require a minimum amount of time spent in Portugal. What you are planning doesn't comply with those conditions (unless you're coming here on the golden visa).
I can't help with suggested areas to look at in that area, other than don't look north of Caldas if you want to be within 60 minutes of Lisbon.
@old-bloke Hi, thanks for your reply. We are currently living in the UK and hence aren't EU citizens. From what I have read, you need to spend a minimum of 6 consecutive months or 8 non-consecutive months in Portugal per year. Is that incorrect?
Dave, Jan.
It is almost correct, you can't have any continuous absence that exceeds 6 months, nor a cumulative absence of 8 months during the validity of each temporary resident's permit. The initial permit is valid for 2 years, the subsequent ones for 3 years, so whilst your interpretation works for the initial 2 year permit it doesn't for the subsequent 3 year ones. The interpretation you have used is how people described it under the old system of the initial permit being for one year and subsequent ones being for 2 years.
If your ultimate aim is to apply for a permanent resident's permit you also need to be aware that one of the conditions for its' issue is no cumulative periods of absence exceeding 10 months in total during the 5 years prior to applying for it.
Once you have a permanent resident's permit the only limit you would have to comply with is to not be absent for more than 2 continuous years, or 30 cumulative months in 3 years.
The relevant law does say the resident's permit MAY be cancelled if these limits are exceeded, but there are circumstances where they can be exceeded.
3 - A ausência para além dos limites previstos no número anterior deve ser justificada mediante pedido apresentado no SEF antes da saída do residente do território nacional ou, em casos excepcionais, após a sua saída.
4 - Não é cancelada a autorização de residência aos cidadãos que estejam ausentes por períodos superiores aos previstos no n.º 2, quando comprovem que durante a sua ausência de território nacional desenvolveram atividade profissional ou empresarial ou de natureza cultural ou social.
@old-bloke Hi, thanks for that. So, we need to spend an average of 10 months of the year in Portugal to be eligible for permanent residency?
Dave & Jan
Hi Dave and Jan,
My name is Colin and I have 2 weeks ago moved to Quinta Bom Sucesso on the wonderful Obidos Lagoon. I highly recommend the south side of the lagoon it is very peaceful and there are many expats here and they are so friendly.
If you want when in Caldas look me up I will show you around Tel; 961655279
@pipfinder Hi Colin, thanks for your reply. Obidos is an area we are interested in so it was good to get a recommendation. We haven’t been to the Silver Coast previously but we have had a number of holidays in the Eastern Algarve. We are coming over on the 3rd March for a few nights to have a look around and, hopefully, view a couple of properties.
It would be great to catch up with you when we are over to learn more about the area etc.
Regards
Dave & Jan
We're also looking at villages/towns on the Silver Coast or slightly inland. We've liked Casicais and Ericeira on previous visits. Hoping to find a place where we don't need to own a car, so rail and bus connections to Lisbon would be cool--or at least a car rental office! We are from California but my wife's mother was born in Portugal so we are hoping that gives us points! We like expats, but don't want to be someplace where they veer on outnumbering the locals! An old style town center with small shops like meat markets and cheese shops and old architecture is a must. Any suggestions?
@danehenas Dear Danehenas, we lived in Ericeira for 17 years and have rencently moved to The Silver Coast, Quinta Bom Sucesso near Caldas Da Rainha which unlike Ericeira has a train station and more old architecture
All the best
Colin
@pipfinder Colin, If I Google Quinta Bom Sucesso I get "Quinta do Bom Sucesso", which appears to be a modern community with a resort... is that it?
Thanks,
Dane
