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A straw poll.  

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Old Bloke
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Joined: 11 years ago

Every year I receive a form from my private pension administrator asking me to prove I'm still alive with the threat that if I don't return the form duly signed by an independent witness "promptly" my pension will be suspended. This year I received one in April and another one last week (which annoyed me somewhat). They have apologised for sending me the second one this year which was a mistake and explained that these forms are part of the UK National Fraud Initiative.
Now I don't have a problem with any measures undertaken to prevent fraudulent drains on the UK National purse but, with the exception of one person who has had 2 in 12 years, no-one else I have spoken to so far out here has ever had one of these forms.
(The form I receive is such that it's a waste of time if they wanted to stamp out fraud, but that a long story).
What I'm trying to establish amongst the UK pensioners out here before I delve further with my pension administrator is a rough idea of the number of UK pensioners (State, Local Gvt, Military) who get these forms and at what frequency.
I accept that the information I'm trying to establish is of a private nature but I would really appreciate any feedback, by PM if preferred, regarding this. I don't want, nor need, to know anyone's names, addresses or ages and any responses would remain anonymous
If you are willing to assist me I only need to know if you've ever had such a form, and at what frequency, and whether it relates to a State, Local Gvt, Military or private pension.
Many thanks

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Victoria1st
Posts: 2451
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Noble Member
Joined: 10 years ago

My private pension requires this about every two years, no witness required.

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nogard
Posts: 208
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Estimable Member
Joined: 8 years ago

I received one such form, for my state pension, after being in Portugal for one year; that being last September.

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topmast
Posts: 1176
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Member
Joined: 11 years ago

We both received these forms from the Uk govt. (state pensions) 2 years ago.
The forms took a long time to arrive and had to be signed and sent back within 6 weeks - we only just made it. That time our bank manager ( a lovely English speaking lady who has seen us several times) signed the forms.

Last year we got the forms again and went to the bank to be told- "sorry, it is company policy now that we don't sign these forms". Perhaps the bank had hassle from the Uk querying if they really were genuine??
Anyway, as we didn't know a policeman, priest, magistrate, etc. etc. and couldn't get hold of our solicitor (who may have charged us) we were getting worried. Finally we went to our local pharmacy (as that was listed) where we are unknown (although it is our village we are, thankfully, healthy). The lady finally understood what was needed and signed the forms and stamped it with the official stamp - no charge.

This year - so far - we haven't received the forms and our pensions continue to be paid into our account. Fingers crossed!

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fleurishi
Posts: 1049
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Noble Member
Joined: 15 years ago

Last year we got the forms again and went to the bank to be told- "sorry, it is company policy now that we don't sign these forms". Perhaps the bank had hassle from the Uk querying if they really were genuine??
Anyway, as we didn't know a policeman, priest, magistrate, etc. etc. and couldn't get hold of our solicitor (who may have charged us) we were getting worried. Finally we went to our local pharmacy (as that was listed) where we are unknown (although it is our village we are, thankfully, healthy). The lady finally understood what was needed and signed the forms and stamped it with the official stamp - no charge.

For what it's worth: the Dutch & Belgian people I know get their forms signed by the Freguesia. The head honcho does this in the evening so it means dropping off one day and collecting the next. I think the charge is around 3 Euros.

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topmast
Posts: 1176
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Member
Joined: 11 years ago

We did try the Fregeusia, but ours is only open a few days a week, and that week, the President was on hols. and he had to "rubber stamp" the forms, so couldn't wait for his return!

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