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 arlo
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14/11/2018 2:58 pm  

Hi,

Does anyone know a place near Lousa where I can buy 2 or 3 point of lay chickens?

If you could let me know the Portuguese phrase for "point of lay" it would be really useful too. Also, where's the best place to buy chicken wire and layers' pellets?

I'll be looking for a goat and a sheep soon too (to keep the jungle under control). If you have any info on a source that would be helpful. Prefer to have wethers to save them from an early grave - any downside to that?

Cheers


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14/11/2018 4:39 pm  

Arlo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know a place near Lousa where I can buy 2 or 3 point of lay
> chickens?
>
> If you could let me know the Portuguese phrase for "point of lay"
> it would be really useful too. Also, where's the best place to buy chicken
> wire and layers' pellets?
>
> I'll be looking for a goat and a sheep soon too (to keep the jungle under
> control). If you have any info on a source that would be helpful. Prefer to
> have wethers to save them from an early grave - any downside to that?
>
> Cheers

Near as damn it :- Chickens ready to lay ="Galinhas prontas para colocar


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14/11/2018 5:34 pm  

If you have an Agriloja shop near you (google and you will probably find their addresses)
you will get chickens, chicken wire and corn/layers pellets, etc.

You can often buy hens at the local markets but they are usually bantams and though
good as "mums", not so good for long term laying. Your local cafe/neighbours might know
where you can get sheep/goats. Don´t forget sheep graze (we keep geese for our orchard)
but goats (bless their little cotton socks!) will rip branches off trees, etc.
Sorry if you know all this!


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 arlo
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14/11/2018 6:16 pm  

Thanks Joe K, that will save me a lot of embarrassing miming and squawking 🙂


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 arlo
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14/11/2018 6:25 pm  

Good idea topmast. Is there any way to distinguish (verbally) between the bantams and what I am used to keeping in the UK (Rhode Island crosses, etc). I can do it by eye easily but I'd like to avoid a 20 km round trip to see smaller or fancy breeds.

Just looking for a few eggs a week most of the year and the ability to take down tropical rain forest to bare earth in a week.

As for the goat(s) that's fine. I haven't kept goats before and I was thinking of a running chain with a second chain on a swivel to contain him in the day. Mainly to stop him running onto the road. It's too big and area to fence off and I've heard electric fences aren't dependable enough. Any advice or normal practice would be appreciated. I want a happy goat that doesn't get itself into trouble.


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 alan
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14/11/2018 7:06 pm  

"galinhas prontas para pôr ovos" might be a better translation.

Alan


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15/11/2018 8:39 am  

Arlo, not seeing your land I don´t know what to advise. Goats do have a habit of
winding themselves around trees, shrubs, etc. if on a chain and I have even known one sadly
that hung itself because it got so caught up. And if you have enough space so there are no
obstacles it would seem you don´t need goats! Catch 22!!

If you do decide on goats, males, like rams, pong! This may not worry you of course, but they
can also get aggressive. I would choose a young female or one that has finished her milk as you
probably won´t want to milk her every day - or maybe get two for company. Goats are far easier to milk than sheep or cows - and, having had a farm, I have done all three!
But how you overcome the enclosure part I am not sure. Our orchard lies outside our main garden and isn´t fenced but is far enough from the road that the geese don´t stray that far.

Sorry, don´t know the Pt. for bantams.


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 arlo
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16/11/2018 4:00 pm  

Yes, I heard that about goats (strangling). I wanted one and a sheep to keep the brush down (goat) and the grass tidy (sheep) and act as companion animals for each other. I could get females but I was thinking of wethers as they should be docile (I believe). I'm not looking for milk and it would save a couple of lives.

The strangle-free solution for the goat was on a web page. Basically sink a couple of metal eye bolts in concrete at ground level, say 20m apart, run a chain along the ground between them and then have a tether chain (with swivel) that can run along the long chain. I have a bit under an acre but a road runs through it. Way too big to fence, way too near a road to have loose animals. Tethering is the only thing I've come up with.


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17/11/2018 9:54 am  

Good luck with your plans and let us know how you get on.


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